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All of the legal avenues to whistleblowing which you alluded to would have involved the program remaining hidden from the general public. That the problem. The only way he could make sure that ordinary people like you and I would find out about it, was to leak its existence to journalists. The political system is specifically designed so that “internal” whistleblowing can be easily hidden and buried.

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